Tiger shot an 84. I'm a 10-14 handicapper and was pleased with a 101 from the middle/back tees. The views are amazing. Fairways are generous. Greens pretty true. Lots of blind, tunnel, or setup shots. Knowing the course would definetly help. The concession guy slept in (we were the only ones on the course at 8am on a Saturday!). But, to his defense, when he heard my wife was four months pregnant, he had sandwiches, beverages, etc. out there on the double with a little discount to boot. Beautiful, HARD, and fun. Not for the budget conscious. Play there early and go to the "sister" courses for 1/2 price golf. Must be done the same day, but well worth it.